New Zealand Prophecy by Dr Jonathan David, 2005
Born from a staunch Hindu Background, Dr. Jonathan David grew up knowing a deep spiritual hunger for God. His Paternal grandfather was a musician in the Hindu temple and his maternal grandfather was particularly involved in the Hindu funeral rites. The young Jonathan David used to serve them both during his school holidays in his primary school years. In his own words, “I served the living and the dead.”
He became born again at the age of 13 in a Brethren Church on Good Friday in 1972. He became water-baptized the same year on December the 16th. An intense persecution arose when it became known that he became a Christian. This made it impossible for him to go to church or even read the bible. The Bibles he had were confiscated by his father and most times torn and once burnt. When his father learned how expensive bibles were, he traded it for a reduction in tuition fees for young Jonathan with the tuition teacher. Dr. Jonathan David was baptized in the Holy Spirit on 19th August 1976 and began to walk supernaturally into the prophetic dimension. In the years of persecution that followed his conversion, the Lord opened up a meaningful consciousness of His presence that allowed young Jonathan to find comfort and strength in His Presence.
In his own words, “These times of intense persecution by my father, my relatives, and community shaped my life and formed my character. It made me determined to follow Jesus to the end. I discovered God as my Father and this revelation changed me forever.”
At the age of 19 (1978) he was already involved in four different outreaches each week and by age 20 he was in full-time ministry pioneering the church in Muar, Johor, Malaysia. In the course of 41 years as a Christian and 33 years as a minister, Dr. Jonathan David saw both his parents saved and even his mother baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Dr Jonathan David Prophecy – Friday 16th September 2005
About a year ago the Holy Spirit began to move in my life in a very sovereign way.
I saw Heaven and I saw earth. Heaven was not above and earth was not below. I saw heaven and earth side by side. I saw heaven was that side and earth was here, and between heaven and the earth there was a gap and there was no way you could pass from here to there. All of a sudden I saw this wall that was being created.
God said to me “To pass through that wall you must come to the end of your flesh, that is a way that I am opening up for my people that they can move from earth into the dimensions of the Spirit if they are willing to come to the place of death. When their flesh has come to an end they will pass through the door”.
And I saw myself passing through this wall, and as I passed through this wall there was a robe of righteousness that was being placed on me – God said “no body can dwell in this realm without the life of the Spirit, without the righteous garments of Jesus Himself. You can’t live in that dimension unless you are prepared to die and go in there and that robe will be placed upon you.”
I want you to come with me, and I want to take you to Heaven, I want you to come with me, because I want you to see the things that I saw, and then I will describe for you this nation.
As I went through the other side I saw the robe of righteousness placed upon me, and the Lord began to speak to me, how no-body could dwell in that place if their robe of righteousness is not given. God said to me “I am going to remove one by one those who have gone in there, and are now trying to dwell without their robes”. There are so many people who have gone in there in the Spirit, because they paid the price before, but they are not living there, they are not living in righteousness. They have gone in there, they have received the gifts and the callings of God – they are irrevocable, but that does not mean you will stay in there forever. God said “I am going to remove people whom I have given access to when they have not lived in righteousness”.
God began to speak to me, and as I walked in I began to see things in the Spirit world. The first place that I saw was these beautiful buildings that were made – some of them were made out of wood, some were made out of stone, some were carved out with all kinds of wonderful ornaments. I saw the beauty of the gates, and the intricate words on the roofings, and on the doors, and I said “Wow Lord this is wonderful”. Then I heard the sound of God’s voice saying ‘this is not buildings, but this is human lives that my hands have formed. Only in the spirit world do you begin to understand them”. God began to speak to me in the scriptures that you will not know man after the flesh but after the spirit. You will see them as the workings, the handiworks of God. You will begin to watch them how that God has formed them, how He has shaped them, how He has transformed them, and all the intricate workings of God will be upon their life, and when you want to look at them you can see that God has really taken time, He has taken pain, He has taken …to carry them through, to form them, and to shape them, and they were so beautiful in my eyes, and I said “wow” and I thought “these are actually houses” and God said “ No they are not houses, but they are human lives”.
And then I heard the sound of God’s voice saying, “I will not entrust myself except to those that I have fashioned. I will not entrust my wealth, I will not entrust my power, I will not entrust all that I have for the last days unless these people have been fashioned by my own hands.” God can only trust somebody that His hands have fashioned. And I saw as I walked in there, I begin to hear the sound of His voice saying “Look these are the lives who will become the habitation of God, because I have formed them, I have shaped them, and I am going to live inside them, and I am going to dwell inside them, and they will reflect all that I have worked upon them. My nature will be upon them, my glory will be upon them, they will reflect when one looks on them you will know that it has only been done by God, one look at that person you will know the hand of God is upon that person’s life, one look at them you will know how deep, intricate the works of the Holy Spirit is upon them, and God said this is the kind of people that I am raising on the other side.”
He said “You will begin to see a new generation of people breaking out, what Heaven has been making, what God has been forming, what God has been shaping” You see our eyes have not seen these people yet, but we are thinking that what we see in the church is what we get, but you see God is beginning to form lives, He is beginning to shape lives. In a single day He can turn them out, and take them out because in the womb of God He is hiding them, He is forming them, He is shaping them. What we see in some of the people in the church they are really not part of the church. They are part of a harlot church, but they are not part of the true church. The true church are the ones who are formed and shaped by the Lord. These are not the ones who merchandise the anointing; these are not the ones who take God for a ride. These are not the ones who take God’s glory for themselves and live in the way of sin. No; these are not the ones!
These are the ones who walk differently, because they have the fashioning of God’s hand upon their lives. They have the seal of the Lamb upon their heads; they have the mark of Christ upon them; so wherever He is going they will follow.
As I passed through that I came to a river, and this was a very unique river because I could see the bottom of this river. It was not like the rivers of Babylon that runs the systems of Babylon, but this river was the river of God. And I saw in that river there were all kinds of things – there were houses, there title deeds, there was gold, there was silver, there were coins, there were currency, and God said to me, “:This is the rivers of my provision”.
It reminded me how that from the Garden of Eden there came forth four rivers. One of the rivers was going to a place where it passed through a piece of land that had gold, the best gold was in that area, and God said “as you follow this river of the Holy Spirit I will meet all your financial needs, everything that you need will be in that flow of the river, where the river is going to lead you to a land that is going to be flowing with milk and honey – the river is going to take you to a piece of land that is going to have gold, silver, and everything that you need. He said “son do not be afraid, because everything that I tell you to do I will give you the power and the resources to do it.” He said “It is not going to be found in the rivers of Babylon, because the rivers of Babylon are different. You walk through the rivers of Babylon the deceitfulness of riches will hook onto you, and will kill you.”
But I saw people that were walking by this river of God, they went in there, they went and sat in the car and drove the car out! I saw them went in there and took the title deed, and what was needed. I saw the people walking into the river and they were free to go in, because their flesh was dead, greed was not there, covetousness was not there, everything that was there was available. They only took what was needed.
I am trying to show you on the other side, for some of us – go like – …. “I thought you were going to preach from Matthew …..” I am just trying to show you from the other side, because I want you to be clear that God is planning for us things in the future that are really going to help us break through, because this is a generation that will see the total fulfilment of all that God has said to them. This generation will meet Christ. As I went to the other side I saw this river and there were all kinds of provisions, everything that was needed. The people were not greedy, they were not hoarding things for themselves, not taking cars and title deeds – everyone knew where to go to get what they needed. There was no greed, there was no covetousness in their hearts, they just had single-mindedness; they just knew what was theirs. When they took the title deeds they exactly had their names on it, even though it was rolled up in a scroll. Because there was no greed inside them, there was no covetousness inside them. You know how some people are when they get in there and they see the gold, and the coins, and the silver, and you know like the ‘powers of the Caribbean kind of stuff’…….
But here we can see how they – don’t take that, they just only take what the Spirit of God has put into their heart, and what is needed for them, what is needed for the journey ahead, and I saw these people take all this kind of stuff, and I saw them moving out, and building, and some of them were extending territories, some of them were buying vineyards, some of them were building houses, some of them were expanding the ministry, some of them were doing great exploits with what God was giving them. Every one of them knew exactly how to get in there, and how to take it; and God said ‘there is a generation that will tap into my resources and they will not lack anything on the journey”
I am telling you my friends that is the way to get onto the other side … you have to come to the end of your flesh, you must be willing to come to the place where you say “Father I desire nothing else, except to please you, and to honour you”……
…all that God has planned can become a reality, everything that He has said can become a reality – and I heard this sound…
For every nation there is a time,
For every nation there is a door of entrance
Something began to rise in my heart, I began to look for Malaysia, I began to look for nations where all my sons and my daughters are, I began to look for the nations where our net-works are, where our connections are, I began to open my eyes, and that is when God began to show me things about nations yet to come. And I am telling you it is in that place where you have to know it is only by His hand that these things can happen. What He has planned, what He has destined for every nation there is a time, for every nation there is a door, there is an access into the presence of God, that they can come through that door, and be saved, healed and delivered. And I believe God is opening that door for this nation – I believe that God is opening the door for this nation. This nation is going to come back to her destiny, this nation of New Zealand is going to come back to her destiny. God is going to turn this nation around in such a powerful way that is going to turn this nation towards its destiny. For so long we have been dwelling around the wilderness, for so long this nation has stayed in a place called “pause” we have been on ‘pause’ concerning our destiny, we have been on pause concerning the plans of God that God has planned for us. God is going to remove us from that ‘pause’ button; is going to accelerate us and fast forward us into a place called ‘destiny’. I believe that there is something that is going to happen in this nation, something that is going to take place in our lives.
THERE ARE SEVEN THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION TO YOU TO-NIGHT, THEN WE ARE GOING TO PRAY, AND WE ARE GOING TO INTERCEDE THAT GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT WILL MOVE SOVEREIGNLY.
1. God is going to give to us a new government.
I don’t know what you understand, I know some of you have a preference, you prefer this party, or that party, God is not a respecter of persons, because He knows who He can choose. I want you to remember that the next government, God is going to set a new government in place – this government will be different. Let me make sure that you hear these things well. It will not be established according to party lines, but according to purpose. There is something that is going to happen to this new government that is going to be established according to the purposes of God. There is going to be a Cyrus anointing that is going to come upon them so that they will know that the place God has given to them is for the purpose of establishing God’s will and God’s kingdom here on this earth. They will not use the place for their own gains, they will not use it to plunder. They will not use it to build an empire for themselves, but I believe very strongly it is going to be on the lines of God’s purpose for us, and that is why I can challenge you and say that there is going to be a change of government, not according to party lines, but according to God’s purposes.
A strategic man who will embrace a thousand anointing will arise to specific positions in the next government. Strategic man, God is going to get men in strategic places and in His own way, and in His own sovereign move is going to move them out, and strategic men will embrace a Cyrus anointing, and they will come in the specific positions in the next government. A new breed of righteous men and women who will rise on the merit of their own testimony and live co-values, and not necessarily because of a party. This is not pre-meditated, I have just wrote it, because when I arrived the Holy Spirit began to speak to me and say ‘write it down so that you do not say what people want to hear, but you say exactly what I said”, so that is why we are putting this on tape, on video, and you can take notes if you want to. In the future it will be on my web-site, so you can get it down clearly, because we are not trying to peddle around with words which we have not heard, it is not a “guess game” when it comes to things like this.
I believe that God is saying a new breed of righteous men and women who will rise on the merit of their own testimony and live co-values, not necessarily because of a party. Hidden corruption will be exposed. False alliances to block rising, the rising of good men within the nation, will come down when God moves sovereignly these days by His power. The word has gone out, hidden corruption will be exposed, false alliances, hidden alliances to block the rising of other men within the nation will come to an end, because God will move sovereignly by His Spirit.
In this new government they will revoke decrees and laws that violate family values and covenant in marriage. There will be a revoking of laws, laws that have already been passed; they are going to take it back. Because a Cyrus anointing that men rise up one night, and he says o.k. you guys are in captivity, now you are free to go back. There is a Cyrus anointing that is going to come on this government. To-morrow they will elect a government, but God is telling us exactly what He is going to do with it. It is not a government the enemy is going to take for a ride. God is going to turn this nation around, because we have been praying, we have been fasting, we have been declaring, we have been speaking into the heavens, this is the government that God is going to turn around. This next five years are going to be years of destiny that God is going to put His hands so sovereignly that the people will never feel intimidated, that people will never feel they are on their own, people will never feel that they have been taken for a ride, and they are just being forced to agree and say yes. But God by His Spirit is going to turn things around. I am telling you I saw in the Spirit there are false alliances everywhere was like a brotherhood of saints, there is false alliances everywhere, people trying to hold places for each other and not allowing the rising of others into their places. God says ‘I am going to bring all these things down’. Those who rise will rise according to their merit, and God will begin to do something amazing. He is going to revoke decrees and laws that violate family values and covenant in marriage. The family values are going to be honoured, there is going to be all kinds of things that are going to rise up in this manner, and there is going to be some very powerful things that are going to happen.
I saw in the Spirit, how demons have said ‘well these people are yielding their grounds to us, and we will make this place our place’. Sorcerers and witchcraft wanted to turn away from Australia, and wanted to park themselves in New Zealand. I am not just trying to joke to you, just because you are hearing me, but I am telling you that this is what the plans of the enemy are. It is that they might make turn this place; I saw false religions occults and cults saying that we will target New Zealand because it is small enough to fall. But God said ‘I will make the small one the strong one’ ‘ I will make the weakest the strength so that I may show to the nations of the world that I can turn a nation around and that I will begin to establish my kingdom.”
I believe this a thing that God has preserved this nation in His mercy, and in His grace. That is the reason I really, really believe that there is going to be a change of government and there is going to be change in the government. I am not talking about who will win the election; that is not what I said. I said there is going to be a change. Whatever government comes in God has a hand on it, God is going to put His hand so strongly that the fear of God is going to be upon His people, the fear of God is going to be on the people who are being elected, there is going to be an awesome fear, because God is going to clean out the corruption, He is going to reveal hidden alliances, He is going to reveal hidden corruption the people don’t know it going to be exposed. You are going to see within the next five years that things are just going to come up into the waters, and things are going to happen, there is going to be a fear of God, and the church is going to know, only God could have done it, only God could have done it.
That is the reason why I want you to be taking courage, because this is going to be a new season ahead of us. I am sure you don’t want me to say ‘thus say the Lord’, because this is thus saith the Lord, we just don’t have to add that cliché in every now and again, because you know when you hear God, you will know, and you just shake your head and say ‘O God thank you, if it was not for you there is no way we could come this far, we are going to go all the way to the finish. We are going to go all the way to the finish, that is why there is going to be a change of government.
2. The economy of the nation. It is going to be favourable, despite oil prices, oil price hikes, and global inflation. God will protect the economy, not because of the cleverness of the politicians, because most of the time the policies don’t hold water.
We thank God for brains, but we thank God for …God.
Favourable despite oil prices, hikes and global inflation. Property markets will continue to flourish by regions, not generally across the nation, but by various regions, by various pockets they will beginning to flourish, not everywhere but in some places; hot in some places, cold in some places – it will just begin to fluctuate all across. God in His divine mercy does not want you to come into a place where the whole economy is going to become hot and heated up and the bubble will burst.
We don’t want to have another crash like what we saw in the eighties. My friends, in the last crisis I was here too. In the eighties is when the monetary crash was beginning to take place, there was a lot of financial strain and the hiking of the prices, and I begin to speak to the pastors that were with me at the time, and I said, ‘listen I believe that God wants you to do this …’ and I begin to speak to various ones about some financial ways of how we can manage what is going to come. One pastor I told him, ‘you sell this big house, because God does not want you to live in this big house, because He wants you to cut down on your mortgage and begin to live.’ It saved his life!
God can begin to reveal to us what will happen. He can give us a Joseph anointing. The Joseph anointing is to protect the world. There are a lot of people who just want God to send judgement on the whole world. There are all kinds of people out there who only want to see the world collapse. They want to make sure that everybody in the world dies, and everybody will know …. God is judging the world… But the Joseph anointing preserves everybody from judgement. And that is what God is going to give to us, such a heart of mercy.
The prophetic anointing is not just to make sure that everybody dies; that is not a prophetic anointing, it is a “pathetic” anointing!. The prophetic anointing is to be able to save lives. To prophesy that a building is going to collapse, there is nothing big about the prophecy, any building can collapse, with the way things are going it can collapse any day in any place. There are earthquakes everywhere!. Tell me how to save lives, and I will tell you, the prophetic is there. Tell me how to save lives the prophetic is going to be there.
So to begin a prophecy that the whole nation is going to be flooded with water and is going to be killed, it is not going to be exciting. If it happens everybody is going to curse you! Noah did not just tell them about the flood, but he told them about the way out.
Sometimes we think that prophetic is crazy gun-slinging methodology; just go bang, bang, shoot everybody!!. No, that is not prophetic, that is immaturity.
To be able to go into a nation to offer them a way of hope in the midst of judgement, that is a prophecy. You read right through the Bible, in the midst of all the judgement that God they deserve to receive judgement, yes in the midst of all that there is an offer. To be able to present to people an offer, to find a way out, that is why the prophetic is always redemptive, it is not judgemental. God is the one who can judge, the prophetic is redemptive. The prophets don’t bring judgement, the prophets bring redemptive grace, so that when they speak to the people the people respond to the prophetic word and they be saved. We are to be like that. Judgement belongs to God, and our job is to save lives.
When Jesus came to this earth, what did He say – that none should perish. As long as you and I are walking on this earth our motto is that ‘none should perish’. We will find every way and every possibility to touch lives, save lives, heal lives, deliver lives, and that is why a Joseph anointing is not to see destruction on Pharaoh’s kingdom. It is true we want to see Babylon collapse, the systems will collapse, but the people of God will carry the people of this world through, because we are the salt of the earth, to preserve their lives. We are not the bullet, we are the salt. Change you attitude towards the world. We cannot reach them if all of us – we think we are like the bullets that make sure everybody gets killed. No, we are the salt to preserve them. We are the light to give light to them, and life to them.
That is why in these last days the economic situation in this nation – God is going to protect that. Foreign D.I. or what they call it, Foreign Direct Investments for property will grow gradually. Consumer spending will increase stimulating domestic growth.
This is all on tape so when they bring it out in the newspaper you will begin to understand that the Lord has spoken. I want to move on quickly, you can say a lot of things about economies, but I just want to be a prophet.
I make sure that everything that I said is what He said to me, because I do not want to …“come a ride “ (not clear)….?….? on what He is saying, and say more than what He said. Because we always have a tendency, things are being said that are nice, and you want to add a few more things about economy because you read some economy books, you are in for trouble, I don’t want to lose the trust that God has on me, so I give you exactly what is, that is all He said to me about economics, and that is all I am going to tell you. But that doesn’t mean that He is going to go anything else beyond that is not His, no let Him do what He wants to do, but these are the fears of our own heart, that there will be favourable climate, economical climate in the days ahead. God’s mercy is going to protect New Zealand. He is going to protect us so that there will be a favourable climate; there will be enough food to eat; there will be enough things to go around. We are not going to be in a suffering lot. God’s blessing is going to be guiding us, keeping us; protecting us in a measure that you and I have never known before. His grace will be sufficient for us. There is going to be an economic future for this nation. Do you believe that?
3. The third thing that He spoke to me is that God is giving an opportunity for national transformation.
God is giving an opportunity for national transformation and a coming back to righteousness in the last few years of this decade of destiny. God is giving this nation an opportunity for national transformation. That simply means the nation is going to come under a heavy hand of God. – Conviction of sin, healing, righteousness, revival breaking out in the regions round about. God is going to give you and I an opportunity – this is what I said to the pastors in the afternoon, – I sense that God has said, ‘you are not in the natural’. Let me explain to you how this thing – I did not say that God said it, but this is how I can explain to you, you know how you get so fed up with people’s excuses. That is how I heard the Lord saying ‘; I am going to give the people an opportunity to come to a place of national transformation, so that they have no excuse’.
You and I will have no excuse because the opportunity is going to be given to us. It will be right at our door-steps. If we take it, it reveals our heart and our passion for Him. If we don’t take it, it reveals our heart and lack of passion. And God is clean, and God is free to send His judgement. Is that serious? God says ‘ I am going to give you an opportunity to come to a place, if you take this opportunity and move on and forward there is going to be national transformation, simply meaning we are going to see revival will break out. We are going to see city after city affected, people are going to be affected; young people are being affected. Drug gangs are going to be busted, prostitute gangs are going to be destroyed; you are going to see national transformation. How things are just going to crumble in the systems of this world and righteousness is going to exalt this nation. That is what you are going to see. You are going to see how there is going to be life and transformation of people’s lives. We are going to see all kinds of negative things that have been out there for so long that can never be handled, is going to be handled because God says ‘I am going to give to you an opportunity for national transformation’. I believe the churches need to rise, need to rise to take this opportunity that God is giving to us, it is a golden opportunity, and that is why this is there. This is the thing that I feel strongly in my heart. He said ‘I am going to give you an opportunity so that you have no excuse whatsoever.’ You can’t say, “I am not working”. You can’t say I didn’t come all the way. You can’t say I have not answered your prayer, you cannot say that I have not come this far, this near in order to provide for you the answers. God said I am going to give the nation an opportunity. A lot of people are beginning to say ‘well, we prayed, nothing happened, so we can do what we want to do’. No we can’t. We got to take this road – the road that has been less travelled. We got to take this road, because God is going to take this opportunity, because He has heard the cry of the people for righteousness. He is honouring the labour of the ministers and the saints. God is dealing a blow to the excuses from many who refuse to move into church, and into destiny. That is a whole company of people called Christians who refuse to move in the church, who refuse to move into destiny – who are sitting out there running down the church. God said “I am not going to give them any more excuse. I have drawn the line for them to cross”.
There is a lot of company people who are running down church, church is not important. They are just running around, living on cassette tapes, and living on canned food, and on their own way of doing. They are not visiting church, because church to them is all a company of hypocrites, they are not interested in anything else, they are just running down church, and running down the body of Christ, they have no desire for unity, they have no desire they just want to be alone by themselves doing their own thing, and always God says “I am giving them an opportunity to turn back”. No more excuse – God is finished with excuses. And this is where we are going to see a clear dividing line in the last days. God is dealing a blow to the excusers from many who refuse to move into church and into destiny. God will sovereignly rise in His house and cause bread `of life to be found within. Like Naomi many will return to church life and community living. Many will return. Many will return to the houses they left, the houses they are going to return, because they have no more excuse, because God is going to move, is going to accelerate those people who have back-slidden, those people who have attacked the church – ‘well I am like this, because the church was like that’. And they can’t think of any excuse any more because church is not going to be like that. God is going to go on forward, God is going to break through, and they are not going to live this kind of life any more. God say ‘I have done with the excuses and it is going to be over’. There is something that is going to happen, I like to encourage you.
4 There will be a wide range of Apostolic Churches who will be instrumental in pioneering the enabling grace to break through into different aspects of church life.
There will be a wide range of apostolic churches who will be instrumental in pioneering the enabling grace to break through into different aspects of church life. Some will break out in worship and song, others in the presentation of the Word, and the depths of its teaching, some will display the demonstration of the Spirit for kingdom advancement, different types of grace upon men to lead this versatile crowd of break-through believers. All kinds of churches will begin to break out, so there is no “mono” type. If God raises your church in a unique way; just stay with it. Don’t worry about Bill Hybels, don’t worry about Brother Joe. Let brother Joe do what brother Joe is good at, you do what God has called you to do. Let your church be uniquely different in the way that God has graced you, because God is going to raise up all kinds of churches, with all kinds of people. The church must cater for all kinds of people. There will be several kinds of people that would not fit into my church, because I am not the kind that they are looking for. My church cannot fit everybody in, because I am a certain kind of a person, like full gospel military then only soldiers want to recruit in there. If it is full gospel hospital, patients will come. What God has put into your life; and His nature in your church will define the kind of people that will come in … so not everybody can fit into our churches. Certain churches attract certain people. If you are a full gospel circus you attract clowns! You attract animal trainers!. That is what it is going to be. If it is a full gospel military school only those who are wanting to go into warfare and into the military will join you, because you attract the kind of people that God gives you the grace to handle. See people leave, and they leave for genuine reasons, not because over a fight because the coffee was not strong enough, and the tea was not strong enough, there was no sugar, they are leaving for silly reasons like that, then God help them, may the angels hold them and deal with them. But if they are people who really genuinely cannot fit in, I cannot be a blessing to everybody, because some people would be frightened by me. But I am a very good trainer. I can train those who want to get across, but some others would freak out if they have me too near and too long, for two days maybe. You are all quite happy, Hallelujah and praise the Lord, but if you live with me it is not easy, because I am not easy to get along, because I make huge demands and I put a lot of demands on myself, so those who stay will feel the pressure, and they may not like that kind of person, too close for comfort. But there are others who are very nice, no matter what they do they still tolerate them. They like pastors like that. But I am not a pastor! I have fire in my bones: if you walk with me you will be burnt. And that kind of people is not easy to handle.
There are others who fit into some other environment. God needs to raise up all kinds of churches. Do you believe this? He has to raise different types of graces upon men to lead this versatile crowd of break-through believers. Some churches will be instrumental in governmental authority for politics. Others will break through in empowering their people for financial breakthroughs. New songs on the prophetic destiny and purposes will be sung. Songs on city taking, on city transformation, will birth a strong passion into the heart of the church. I am going to read this because the time is running out. But I am going to read this so that you can absorb them into your spirit. Do you believe that? So churches are going to be instrumental in governmental authority for politics. Some churches will rise up. They will begin to breed politicians. Some will begin to breed musicians. Some of them are going to breed financial break through people, those who are really in financial magnates, who can draw resources for the extension of God’s kingdom. One church cannot rule everything. Some of them will be so instrumental in beginning to birth songs, and produce songs, and songs that have to deal with prophetic destiny and purposes of God on city taking, city transformation, all these kind of songs is just going to ignite fire, because there are people who are going to be men and women who are revolutionists, who are going to carry that fire of God in their hearts everywhere they go.
5. A fresh move of the prophetic and apostolic will rise in the nation.
There will be scores of men and women across the nation who arise simultaneously in their region, being strategically positioned to impact their regions, God will begin to raise up men everywhere, His men, not any men, but His men, His choice instruments. His hands have fashioned them, and He is going to lift them up, and He is going to raise them. The depth of the Word; and the dynamics of the Spirit will signify the dimensions of this ministry. If you look at them there are two things you will know about them – one, is the depth of God’s Word, the quality of God’s Word and you can see the intricate working of the Holy Spirit in their life, and you know these people are strategically positioned in the future to change nations. Whenever you watch these things, please remember these are God’s men, and get your hands off. And I am telling church members. And other pastors too. Some people have courage to touch anybody, because they have no desire, no honour for the anointing. That is why any man of God, they will just attack and touch and speak and be bitter about, because they have no power and no understanding, and no honour towards the anointing.
That is why I am telling you God is going to raise up these people. There will be a prophetic teaching priest who will create movements of people for kingdom advancement. These ministries will become light bearers and will set a standard for ministries in church life. They will expose false ministry and be given the grace to demolish strong holds. You know the only way to deal with a crooked stick is not argue. The only way to deal with a crooked stick is to put a straight stick alongside it. There is no way you are going to attack and fight these false ministries, except by raising the standard. But those when they see the light-bearers and they see the standards of God you will know what a false ministry is, by looking at the true you can identify the false.
This is what God is going to do, that is why a fresh move of the prophetic and the apostolic will rise in this nation, because God is going to direct this nation from a journey that they have been circling around this mountain to a pathway of clear destiny. We are going back to course. We are going back to the right course, and that is why those who are building this church accurately will receive truckloads of people that are going to come and join them. Some of the churches that we are having to-day are not churches, they are just brick factories. People are just there doing nothing. There are good people sitting in churches, and dying and rotting. They are not doing anything, they are not going anywhere, they are just sitting down there listening to a sermon and rotting. But God is going to take these bricks from those brick factories, and he is going to give to those pastors who are builders of the houses, He is going to give them bricks so that the habitation of God will be great in those places. I am telling you some churches are not churches, they are only brick factories, and God is going to move people out from there, just like in the charismatic move the people moved out from the main-line churches and became part of the fresh move of God. Now in this move people will even leave charismatic churches, Pentecostal churches, and there will be a mass exodus from these churches that are not moving on, and into the churches that are prophetic, apostolic, want to move on in the plans and purposes of God. Those who have found destiny God is going to take them. God is going to take them, and there is going to be a supernatural accompaniment in the prophetic, with revelation gifts and healing anointings.
I saw as I was preparing this, and as God began to speak to me I saw how the prophetic is going to operate the gifts of the Holy Spirit in accuracy, and how the healing anointing will accompany the prophetic, how the healing anointing is tapped into the prophetic, so that when the prophetic begins to go out, and word of knowledge, and word of wisdom and discerning of spirit begins to go out, the healing mantle is going to hit the place, and you are going to see supernatural healing power. People are going to be healed, people are going to be delivered; massive deliverances are going to take place. Use the gifts of the Holy Spirit, allow word of knowledge, word of wisdom, discerning of spirit to go out, and you will find that the healing power is going to flow together with them, and people are going to be healed, delivered. Long-term problems, deep-seated problems that have been there for a long time; and God is just going to cut it off just like that. That is why there is going to be great demonstration of what God is going to do.
6. A generational church of father and sons will arise breaking generational gaps. A generational church is going to rise in New Zealand.
Many churches in the nations of the world boast they are a young people’s church. Some people boast about they have older generations, but in New Zealand we will not lose any generations. God wants you to model something different, He wants you to be able to breach the gap between generations, destroy the feeling of being threatened by the older generation by having a sense of honour by the younger generation. The younger generation can honour the older ones, the older ones can begin to release the younger ones so that father and sons can begin to rise together in the same place. When our children and young people begin to rise we will never feel threatened, we will never feel that they are over –riding authority. We will give them their day; we will give them their place; we will give them their desire. They want to play the guitar, and they want to have synthetic drums, they want to run around, they want to somersault, they want to do ‘hip-hop’, let them do it, because they gotta hop, and they gotta hip!. You don’t have a hop on your hip, so don’t worry, just skip your hip and you will be o.k. But they can hop and hip, so let them go for it, and let them do what they are supposed to do, because it is called preference. Let them have their day, let them enjoy themselves, because our children must begin to grow with joy in the same place. If you watch your own house you do not have your children in one room and you parents in a different room, we are all together, and the children are jumping all over the place, because you are the mum and dad, you are supposed to get them in the right pathway. Children are always going to be children, but you have to guide them until they come into a place called destiny. That is why there is going to be a generational church, the young people are going to honour the older ones, the older ones are going to release the younger ones. They are going to be such a team there won’t be any clashes, there won’t be a gap in between; there won’t be struggles in between. Why? Because they are going to have such honour because they are going to know fathers and sons and (… the prize..? not clear_) I do not know why we have removed this from church. We run our families differently, but when we come to church we are religious. No. Young people know they cannot have this music, our young people are hearing the music in their house, but why is it cannot be played in the church? Why do you have one standard in your house; and one standard in the church? That is why we have to breach the gap, we have to learn to allow them to express themselves fully here, not in the world, fully in the house. If they cannot express here they are going to express somewhere else. It better be that they express here in the house of God, and we are going to have some wild time in the church. We are going to have some wild time in the church, we are going to have such a roaring time, a time of excitement, there will be such an exuberance, there is going to be such a shout in the house, that people are going to be so excited – ‘we want to be in church’. They don’t want their night clubs any more because it is too dark, they want a place where there is light, they want to be in a place where there is joy, where there is excitement, there is freedom, there is liberty. The way we talk is different, the way we begin the ministry is different, we don’t say – “ deep boring voice let’s turn to mark chapter four, I’m so excited… mumbling”– even your voice is boring. Get some excitement, get some lubrication on your joints, and get moving man! Let us learn to talk like this – learn to talk like this … learn to dress differently, learn to act differently, we can’t even appreciate a different culture we are coming into. Some of us are totally irrelevant to this young generation that is growing up. They look at you one moment you are totally boring, you are totally boring, you cannot excite the young generation; that is why they go to the world. That is why they have models of our young generation; they want to pitch their calling, because the older generation don’t become a model any more to the younger generation. The younger generation are picking according to their own level. Look at all our singers, they are young fellows; they don’t have older people as their models any more. In our days we chose older men as our models. Then the younger days, they don’t choose the older men any more, they choose their own peer level. Why … because we don’t excite them. We don’t do anything that is exciting. They look at us and think we are boring. Our voice puts them to sleep; it is like ‘lullabying’. God is going to raise up a generational church. It will make a difference. Two generations will course. Joshua and Caleb will flow together they will be covenanted to its destiny. This is the story of New Zealand. We are going to model something new. We are going to not just model young people or older people; it is young and old together. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob all dwelt in the same tent together.
7. An economic empowerment of the Church for the transfer of wealth. There is going to be an economic empowerment of the Church for the transfer of wealth.
Every government has a finance ministry; every government has a finance ministry. God’s government is going to have a finance ministry. God is going to empower the Christians to be able to inter-face with the world, in order to draw resources into the kingdom of God. But we have to train the believers, we have to train the believers if only (?) all of them will jump into the world and say ‘pastor we are doing it for you’ and they will be lost. They will jump into the rivers of Babylon; it will take them, and take them out. But we have to train them. Just like full-time ministry is one of training you have to train the business people to go into the business world to finish the task and know how to get connected to God, or else we lose them. God is going to empower the church in New Zealand, there is going to be an economical empowerment of the church for the transfer of wealth.
How many of you believe we have just talked about the history of our country? This is going to be the future for our nation. We are going to see a new New Zealand; that is up there in the heavens and is coming down. There is a new New Zealand that God has made in the heavens in the spirit world that has been established by prayer; that has been formed by the spirit, it is up there in the heavens, it is going to come down. That is the New Zealand that we want, we don’t want the New Zealand the politicians are throwing to us, we don’t want the N.Z. the philosophers are throwing to us, we don’t want a N.Z that is been left by the wayside. We want a N.Z. that is up there, made by God; that is beginning to come down. This is the New Zealand we want!! This is the New Zealand we will receive.
I want you to stand to your feet right now, I want you to lift those holy hands before the Father, and begin to pray in the Holy Ghost here to-night that that something supernatural will begin to happen. I sense in the spirit that God is about to do a new mighty work in this nation, come and lift our voices and our hearts to Him. God is rising by His Spirit, God is rising by His Spirit, He is raising a new generation, He is raising a new generation of men and women who will begin to break forth in the power of the Holy Ghost……..Hallelujah, Lift your hands to the Father, lift your hearts to the Father to-night.. In the name of Jesus … We are looking to God for a new New Zealand in God, that has been formed and shaped by Christ ……Father release your grace, release your anointing, let New Zealand arise …to fulfil her destiny …Holy Spirit do a new work in this nation ………We declare satan has no power, he has no portion, he has no rights, no memorial ……Jesus begin a new work in this nation ……… Spirit of the Living God fall afresh on our hearts, fall afresh on our lives …… in the Name of Jesus ……
He says, son of man what is this proverb your people have concerning the lamb of Israel saying the days are long and every vision fails, therefore thus says the Lord ‘ I will make this proverb cease so that they will no longer use it as a proverb in Israel, but tell them the days draw near, as well as the fulfilment of every vision, but there will no longer be any false vision of flattering divination within the house of Israel, for I the Lord will speak, and whatever word I speak I will perform. It will no longer be delayed, for in your days I will speak the word and perform it” declares the Lord.
Furthermore the word of the Lord came to me saying “son of man, behold the house of Israel is saying ‘the vision that he sees is for many years from now, and he prophesies of times far off. Therefore say to them, declares the Lord of hosts, none of my words will be delayed any longer, whatever word I have spoken I will perform, declares the Lord’
Hallelujah ….Hallelujah… No more delay … No more postponement …Hallelujah, now is the time, now is the time …… in the name of Jesus …..
Father we declare according to your word, give us a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing that will begin to revoke the laws of the past and bring the nation back to the destiny, we declare to-night in the name of Jesus ‘be done’, let it be done, give us a new government, give us a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing, that will bring this nation back to her destiny,’’ in the name of Jesus ……..
I want you to lift you hands and say this after me “God, give us a government, a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing, to bring this nation back to her destiny, let every other form come to an end, in the name of Jesus, let every other form of alliance come to an end, in the name of Jesus. We decree it, God has declared it, so be it, in the name of Jesus, Amen and amen ……
Hallelujah …..Oh praise you Lord, praise you Jesus ……… (… repeat prayer …) ……
In Malaysia we prayed for our government, I prayed for the elections, we prayed all across the country and I gave them the words to pray, and I said “pray that God will remove every politics that is dominated by religion. Religious politics have to go, money politics have to go, street politics have to go, we want a righteous government, we want corruption to be dealt with” Do you know the religious party, the Islamic religious party had a serious amount of thirty overseas in a former election. Last election I think there were only two in the parliament. God gives the church the power to pray, that is why you should lift up holy hands in the church to pray. When men lift up their hands and begin to pray, I am telling you ….most of the prayer warriors in the church are women. That is where the devil manifest himself, try to attack the church, but when men and women begin to pray together, they are going to rise up, oh I tell you something sovereign begins to happen. I am not saying the women cannot pray, but I am saying there is a power because men were made to rule. When they rule the women come into a place of safety. You ladies will have no problem if the men are standing up right. There will be no reason why any one of you will walk out of line and try to tempt any men, because if the men are right and they are walking straight righteousness prevail in the house, the fear of God will keep everybody in the walk of righteousness. That is why it is going to be very important. I prayed this morning – I said “God give us a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing, that will be able to lead us back to destiny.” One government sending the people of God into captivity, another government release them. One government release them into a place of captivity, brought them into a place of captivity, the people of Israel were taken out and sent to Babylon from Persia. The King of Persia sent them all back.
I believe we are coming out of captivity; this is going to be our season. God is going to give us a new government. I am not talking about politics; I am talking about God’s purpose. That is why I am very, very careful. I am a foreigner, I do not want to get involved in your local politics, but I have mentioned to you God will give us a new government, and that government will have the capacity to embrace that grace, that Cyrus anointing so you are going to come upon them in a mighty way. In the days ahead you are going to find politicians flocking to the church, speaking to the church, you will hear that in your country in New Zealand, politicians will walk to you, we heard that you speak the Word of God, can we talk to you? What does God say about my life? Here is my wife, can you pray for us? You stay here, we bring our children, can you pray for our children>
You will hear that in New Zealand, you are going to find that, you are going to respond from everywhere, they are going to turn to the church. God will give a new face to the church, and that is why we must pull up our socks, and get ready and begin to talk with stature in the spirit world, because God is about to do a new work in this land, something sovereign is going to happen. I believe there is going to be … the prophetic word that has gone out is going to shut the work of the enemy in a very powerful way. Get ready for the best five years ahead of us. Get ready until we can take this; take our churches into the next few years of destiny … to 2010. When I wrote the book “the Gate of Destiny” I knew exactly that this ten years are going to be sovereign years of God, where God has a set time for every nation, and has a door for every one of them to come into a place of entrance before you, that every goat nation can be turned to a sheep nation. I believe that God has turned Malaysia, which is a goat nation, to become a sheep nation. I am telling you the truth – the population of Christians in our nation is increasing higher, and higher, and higher. God is touching politicians. People are saying things …the Muslims are saying things … that is even shocking us Christians, because they are becoming so open. My prime minister is so open, he is so upright in his heart, and welcomes the prayer of Christians to pray for his wife, and for him, and we remember the time when the prime minister was officiating at as Christian movement, and there it was that the pastors begin to pray, and there was tears in his eyes because they prayed for him, prayed for his wife. God has turned the hearts of people. Sometimes we think the Muslim people all of them are terrorists. You are wrong! This is a western mind set. They are godly people, they love God. They desire God, they desire to know God; they desire to walk in righteousness. And that is why I thank God for Malaysia. I thank God that I am born in that country. I would not trade in any other place, but God in that nation is turning the nation around. 60% of our population are Muslims; but in the midst of all that God is doing such a sovereign work. My friends; New Zealand is an easy piece of cake. You don’t have much opposition. You don’t have opposition. You don’t know what is restriction. You only have the natural things out there, but you that hell, all of hell was against our nation for many, many years. But we can see nations turn around, here is an easy piece of cake.
Four million people is a drop in the bucket, why are we struggling? If we pull our lives together and get on to the plans and purposes of God we can turn things around. God has to change the way we think in this nation so that we can connect ourselves to destiny, not to personality. Connect yourself to destiny, don’t just connect yourself to an ideology; connect yourself to destiny, because we must take this nation across. I believe this nation has much to contribute. I believe you as pastors and leaders in churches have so much to contribute, so that this that God is doing here can spread into the nations of the world. From here to the ends of the earth … from here to the ends of the earth. I want to challenge you – I love this nation. I love the people that are dwelling in this nation, and I love the connections that God has given to me in this nation, I know that there is a thing that is going to happen from here. From here God is going to cause bust up the gates of hell, not only in the Pacific region but also in the regions beyond. I believe there is something very powerful. Why would the man from here Edmund Hillary, be the first one to climb mount Himalayas, he is a kiwi you know, in case you don’t know!! A kiwi can climb up there, not just hide in the bushes. A man did it, I am telling you, don’t let this mentality, this culture in the atmosphere hold you back. You can do great exploits for God. You can do things – there is nothing – you can pick up the highest mountains, the smallest island, can you imagine what can happen if we can just embrace the same stature in the spirit world we will do great exploits for God. I believe that there is a capacity in this nation that we can rise; we can rise to the occasion. I want New Zealand to rise to the occasion.
I will be praying for you, that God will continually lift you up and strengthen you, those of you whose hearts are connected, those of you who come to know and appreciate what we are doing .. I am praying every day that the Holy Spirit will move mightily in our people in our churches, and all those that are friends of ours, we want to see that God will lift this nation up in a very powerful way. Every nation must fulfil her destiny, specially the nations that God has assigned for righteousness, and raise this nation, and I believe you are going to see the next five years of amazing things. The church must get on the ground and start to move. We have fought the battle in the heavens, and now it is time for us to move on the ground.
I believe some amazing things are going to happen, amazing things are going to happen, so you must get ready, take courage. To-morrow morning when you wake up what would you say? “God give us a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing that will help us to come back, bring this nation back to her destiny”.
When you wake up and get out of your bed, this is what you do, lay your hands on the ground and begin to say ‘God give us a new government that will have the capacity to embrace the Cyrus anointing, that will help us, help them to bring this nation back into her destiny”. That is what I am praying, that is what I will pray from now for the next five years. The government, if there is anything that is there that is any other form, let it come down, even if they escape our prayer and two or three come in, we have to bring them down. Our prayer will haunt the works of the enemy down.
The Word has gone out! You remember how God was trying to preserve the nation of Israel, then came Haman, with a device and a plan, he started to put a law, tried to attack the people, what did happen? He hung on the same place that he tried to hang the people of God. God will do that my friends, because the word has gone out, nothing can touch it. All this happened during the days of Ezra, Nehemiah. These were the days of restoration. I believe God is doing this work. He is on our side. If God be for us who can be against us? If God be for us who can be against us?
So do not be too anxious about the election results. God has already got them. Whoever it needs to be He has got them, he is going to turn them around. Your job is to just follow your conscience. Just go and vote whatever is needed inside your heart. If you have already voted then to-morrow morning at 9.30 we start. Amen.
Dr Jonathan David – Friday 16th September 2005